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Bonnie Garmus: I wrote 'Lessons in Chemistry' not to blame men, but to say we need male allies

In this exclusive interview, the star author of the worldwide bestseller talks about the perils and perks of having a stupendously successful first novel, her inspirations, the book’s AppleTV+ adaptation, and dispenses some sage advice for women and writers.

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By Sneha Bengani   | Asmita Pant  Feb 13, 2024 7:22:00 PM IST (Published)

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Bonnie Garmus: I wrote 'Lessons in Chemistry' not to blame men, but to say we need male allies
Bonnie Garmus had three packed sessions at the 17th edition of the Jaipur Literature Festival with fans hanging on to each word, lapping up everything that the “global phenomenon” had to say about her blockbuster debut novel Lessons in Chemistry and how to navigate sexism in an obnoxiously patriarchal world.

Of course, it wasn’t easy to get through to her; she was one of the biggest international stars to have graced the glittery literary mela this year. But amid publishers, PRs, and a room full of fellow journalists, we managed to squeeze in a quick chat. The 66-year-old talked about her deep disappointment with the AppleTV+ series starring Brie Larson, how the resolute protagonist Elizabeth Zott is a lot more than a character for her, why women need to cultivate male allies and the need for writers to be fierce critics of their own work.
How happy are you with the show?
It is very, very different from the book. I don't particularly like the show. That's not 'Lessons in Chemistry'. I’m not that happy, actually. But, you know, I think it's really important to remember when you give a book over to Hollywood, they're not going to make the book. They usually don't.
They adapted the book, and they took the story in a different direction, which I think was a little bit weird because she's not as feminist. She's more of a victim in that story, and so I'm not a big fan of it.
How satisfied are you with Brie Larson’s performance?
Well, I don't really talk about this series that much, honestly, but I think Brie did a great job with what she was given.
How did Elizabeth Zott and her story come to you? And why chemistry?
Elizabeth Zott came to me during a bad day at work when a man had taken credit for all of my ideas in a meeting. I was the only woman in the room that day, and there wasn't another man in that room who stood up for me or defended the fact that they knew it was my work. And so that's the day the story started.
The chemistry in it was important to me. And, again, the series got the science wrong. For me, that's a big deal, and for scientists all over the world, that's a big deal. I wanted to make her a chemist because I wanted to put her on television, and I knew a woman back then could only be on television if she was sort of a hostess or if she was doing something related to the home. So she was a cook, and cooking is chemistry, so I had to learn chemistry.
Why kill Calvin?
Oh, you're giving stuff away. Well, I think the way they did the series was horrible. You know, Elizabeth was a scientist in her own right. If she had ended up being with Calvin, every single bit of her work would have been attributed to him. So I knew that he could not stay. But I wanted a man in the book who recognised a woman's brilliance and loved her for her mind, was not intimidated by her, did not try to put her down. He was a really important character. And then he has to go because she has to be able to stand on her own two feet.
It’s astounding just how relatable Lessons in Chemistry is for any woman or person who has ever stood their ground and not taken shit. What was your approach while you were crafting Elizabeth Zott? Was relatability a concern?
Elizabeth Zott is my role model. All I had to do was write my role model. It's so nice to have somebody you can look up to, even if they're not real.
What are the perils and the perks of having a first novel as huge as this?
I think the rewards are that so many people, including men, are hearing a message of feminism that they can pay attention to. Because I tried to write the book, and it's full of dark things, but it's also full of light things. And I tried to write the book not to blame men but to mention that we need male allies. We're not interested in bullies anymore, and we need to stand up to those bullies together, men and women. And so I think, luckily, the book has attracted a lot of male readers. As for the peril of having a big book like this, I can't complain about anything.
What’s also remarkable is that the story does not generalize or demonize men. There's sexual assault, there are misogynistic male colleagues, but then there's also someone like Calvin. Was it a conscious choice to have a broad spectrum of all kinds of men?
Yes, because it represents society. There are always bullies in society. Women are bullied a lot at work, even today. And they're always bullied by men. Occasionally, they're bullied by women, but it's usually men. We still live in a patriarchy, and that is scientifically ridiculous. It doesn't exist in science. It shouldn't exist in our society.
What about the black neighbor, Harriet?
She's not black in the book, but they made her black in the series, and she's old in the book. She's not young.
I found it problematic, tokenistic.
Yes, exactly. Thank you. That is exactly the right word. I was really concerned about that. I have black relatives, and they really don't like it, because they felt that it was white people writing black history. And they also felt like it was reducing the very critical and important topic of civil rights to a freeway issue, to a not-in-my-backyard issue. And so that's been a problem.
Who are the biggest inspirations in your life?
My two daughters!
How can a writer deal with rejections?
Rejection is never easy, and I know it feels very personal when it's your own book. And yet, rejection is completely normal in this business and every writer should expect it. The trick is to keep going; to know that no one else can decide when you're done. Only you determine that. My advice is not to give in; to keep going; to know that others have been in your shoes and understand your difficulty. Keep your head up. Eventually, if you stick with it, you will prove all the naysayers wrong.
What advice would you give to women battling sexism in workspaces and life?
Women must speak up, whether at home or in the working world. But it can be very hard to do. That's why women must support other women. If you're having issues at work, tell another woman, support other women in meetings, and be ready to listen.
Same thing at home—talk to other women and ask for help. Culturally we've all been raised to be polite to a degree that it buries our power. Assertiveness is critical. And this is important: a woman must also cultivate male allies. I've had the pleasure of working with men who never saw me as anything but equal.
But many more potential male allies are stopped by their own unconscious bias. They may be surprised to discover you're facing sexism because they can't see it. So that too is your job: educate them, then enlist their help. Remind them, especially if they have sisters or daughters, that their loved ones face discrimination daily. Remind them that unless they're part of the solution, they become part of the problem. We're 50% of the population; we have to act like it.
Anything that you’d like to say to new writers?
Write with confidence and craft. Anyone can tell a story—it's how you tell it that matters. Rewrite constantly. Be your own critic. Develop your own voice. Never imitate—it never works. And finally, read, read, read.

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